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Post by Root Admin on Apr 2, 2017 22:15:24 GMT
I was stalking previous shouts recently when I noticed a complaint about the ranking system. I plan on changing it, and I am completely open to suggestions if anyone has ideas on a new system! Please give your opinions below. I am also planning on making groups according to alignments. Heroes will be one group, villains will be another, and so on. If anyone seconds this idea and has comments or suggestions, please say so below. Thank you for your time!
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Post by Nightmare on Apr 2, 2017 22:35:43 GMT
Suggestion, Heroes can be rated C, B, A, S or SS and so on. This is a rating style I have seen in anime. I think it could work for the heroes at least. As far as villains, I doubt they need rankings, there's just the boss, and all of those beneath her.
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Post by Head Admin on Apr 3, 2017 2:23:36 GMT
Honestly, I am in full support of removing the ranking system. I'd like to encourage a focus on the literary aspect of RP as opposed to the metagaming aspect, in which players are quickly pumping out short posts in an attempt to increase their post count so that they have an advantage over their peers. The focus should be on making posts that are as enjoyable to read as they are to write. Reading the posts that have been made in the past few short weeks, (As sub-administrator, I do make a point to read every post) it feels lacking.
For those of you familiar with me and my thoughts on the matter, (namely Glitch Kong) you know that I am in full support of "statless" roleplay. The systems created by other forum sites and allow characters to have power without numbers to measure against one another. The powers should be taken advantage of, not to beat your peers in a fight, but to tell your story. The victor of a decisive battle shouldn't be determined by who has more low-effort barely 125-word posts. It should be decided by who can more creatively turn the tide of a fight with their literary skill alone, without relying of a post-count crutch.
Honestly, I'd be even willing to do away with the restrictions and cooldowns present in powers on-site, if I were confident that it wouldn't be taken advantage of. Unfortunately, I am absolutely not confident in that. Not one bit. And it's because I'm just a little disappointed.
Roleplay is intended to write stories. Sure, combat can be involved, but it was never be intended to be the main focus.
Plot is what matters.
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Berserker
Beyond Human
You want to mess with my family? Expect no mercy!
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Post by Berserker on Apr 3, 2017 7:54:54 GMT
Wow.... Now I see why she's admin
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Post by Root Admin on Apr 3, 2017 13:26:09 GMT
Lovely idea, Boss. However, isn't there a way to focus on both story and power? I wouldn't be against increasing the word-count minimum on posts, if that's what you think would be a good solution.
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Post by The Yellowist on Apr 3, 2017 17:49:21 GMT
Well, increasing the word-count minimum wouldn't help much in this situation, I feel. Some people write more, some people don't, but around what we have now is standard fair for post count requirements. In other sites, people promote communication and story-telling over any sort of meta-gaming and cheesy 'I've been here longer than you have rah rah' shpeel. This is a close, fairly tight-knit group at the moment, right? I KNOW we've got some great roleplayers here. I'm in full support of removing the ranking system entirely, but keeping the possibility of implementing it again later on if the site grows, depending on what people it attracts.
Godmodding is against the rules. People should know that. Having people fight independent of rules beyond that seems perfectly fine, and most importantly, LIBERATING on my end.
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Shadow (Twili Hero/Prince)
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Sometimes, sacrifices may be made. Be it my blood, be it my life, I will do anything for peace.
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Post by Shadow (Twili Hero/Prince) on Apr 3, 2017 19:55:08 GMT
Honestly trying to squeeze out words can be quite difficult at times. I often struggle to fulfil the minimum word requirement. So reducing the word count a bit would be a lot less strenuous. Or just removing ranks completely like the Boss said. I am sorry if I had repeated everything that was said already.
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Post by Head Admin on Apr 3, 2017 20:04:27 GMT
In response to Glitch Kong's very valid points and Shadow's approval, I'll be creating a poll some time soon to address the matter. I'd like every single one of you to vote - this could lead to a big change in the flow of Heroes RP's narrative.
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Shadow (Twili Hero/Prince)
Beyond Human
Sometimes, sacrifices may be made. Be it my blood, be it my life, I will do anything for peace.
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Post by Shadow (Twili Hero/Prince) on Apr 3, 2017 20:11:26 GMT
I thank you for this!
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Berserker
Beyond Human
You want to mess with my family? Expect no mercy!
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Post by Berserker on Apr 3, 2017 20:15:15 GMT
I like it
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Post by Head Admin on Apr 3, 2017 20:19:31 GMT
Quickly consulting Rainheart before making such a poll. She is head admin, after all.
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Post by Root Admin on Apr 4, 2017 13:01:16 GMT
I second Shadow's idea. Perhaps decreasing the word count would be helpful.
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Post by Head Admin on Apr 4, 2017 13:42:37 GMT
How would decreasing the word count help in any way, especially on a board with a feature that rewards players for frequency of posts as opposed to the quality of them? It's hard enough already to reply meaningfully to short 125-word posts. If that standard was lowered even further, so too would the quality of the posts at Heroes RP.
I don't think I'm too hip to that idea.
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Post by Root Admin on Apr 4, 2017 16:42:58 GMT
It's up to the people, I suppose. The poll will decide. But if the ranking system is taken down, how will the victor of a fight be determined. Some people are better at writing than others (I believe Glitch Kong said something along those lines), and if it all comes down to the quality of the posts, then I think that it may be a bit unfair for a good writer to just stomp all of his/her opponents who aren't so good. Do you see where I'm going with this?
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Post by Head Admin on Apr 4, 2017 19:57:58 GMT
It's not all based on the quality. I believe that the victors should be determined by a joint decision between the two combatants - an agreement. It promotes communication and a narrative skill, allowing members to determine winners to further benefit their story and their character.
A good writing skill isn't a requirement, it just makes it more fun for me to read it. I do try to read every thread, though I admit I've skipped one or two.
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